* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. UM, [00:00:01] I'M TOLD AT SIX 30. AND SO I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER BECAUSE UH, WE HAVE THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE. GARY GIMBAL. HERE. STEVE KNIGHT. PRESENT. RYAN PERKS. MARK JORDAN. HERE. CHRIS COX, FRANCE MCCOON. HERE. KEN ROGERS. HERE. MISTY FRANCIS. KEN SAYER. HERE. KATIE STEWART. CORRECT. UM, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM AND SO, UH, I CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON ALONG. UM, I [3. APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES] BELIEVE EVERYBODY RECEIVED A COPY OF LAST MONTH'S MINUTES IN YOUR PACKET. UH, ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS COMMENTS ON THE MINUTES? IF NOT, DO I HEAR MOTION? PLEASE ACCEPT MINUTES. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? MINUTES ACCEPTED. UM, BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO UNFINISHED BUSINESS, WHAT I USUALLY DO AT MEETINGS IS READ A BRIEF STATEMENT REGARDING THE PURPOSE OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION REVIEW COMMISSION. UH, THIS IS PARAPHRASED FROM ARTICLE AND OF MARTIN CLERK'S ZONING ORDINANCE. THE PURPOSE OF MARK SPURS HISTORIC PRESERVATION DISTRICT IS TO PROMOTE THE EDUCATIONAL, CULTURAL, ECONOMIC, AND GENERAL WELFARE OF THE PUBLIC THROUGH THE PRESERVATION OF BUILDINGS, SITES, MONUMENTS, STRUCTURES, AND AREAS OF HISTORIC OR ARCHITECTURAL INTEREST OR IMPORTANCE. IN ADDITION, THE DISTRICT IS INTENDED TO IMPROVE PROPERTY VALUES AND STRENGTHEN THE LOCAL, LOCAL ECONOMY THROUGH PRESERVATION OF THE CITY'S CHARACTER. THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION REVIEW COMMISSION ADMINISTERS THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION DISTRICT BY REVIEWING ALL PLANS FOR CONSTRUCTION, ALTERATION, AND REPAIR OF STRUCTURES IN THE DISTRICT, INCLUDING PAINTING, MOVING, OR DEMOLITION STRUCTURES INCLUDE FENCES, FOUNDRY WALLS, SIGNS, LIGHT FIXTURES, STEPS, AND PAVING. THE COMMISSION WILL CONSIDER ALL THE EXTERIOR ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES, WHICH INCLUDE THE COLOR, ARCHITECTURAL STYLE, GENERAL DESIGN, AND ARRANGEMENT OF THE EXTERIOR OF A STRUCTURE, INCLUDING THE TEXTURE OF THE BUILDING, MATERIAL TYPE, AND STYLE OF ALL WINDOWS, DRAWERS, LIGHT PICTURES, SIGNS, AND OTHER FEATURES. ALL WORK SHOULD BE COMPATIBLE, HARMONIOUS, AND CONSISTENT WITH THE ORIGINAL SCALE, STYLE, AND CHARACTER OF THE STRUCTURE. IN ADDITION, THE COMMISSION WILL CONSIDER THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE EXTERIOR OF THE STRUCTURE WITH ALL OTHERS IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, SO AS TO, UM, AVOID INCONGRUITY AND TO PRESERVE THE OVERALL CHARACTER OF THE AREA. SO NEXT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA IS, UM, SOME UNFINISHED BUSINESS. IT PROJECT, UH, 2025 DASH 15 DASH HP, WHICH IS, UH, FOUR 19 WHISPER AND 100 SOUTH BRAWLEY. IS ANYONE HERE TO PRESENT THAT CASE? FOUR 19 WESTBERG. IF NO ONE IS HERE TO PRESENT THAT CASE, I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT WE MOVE IT TO THE END OF THE NINTH AGENDA AND THE DAY LATE. NO, WE'LL JUST MOVE IT TO THE, OKAY. WE'LL MOVE IT TO THE END. OKAY. [5. NEW BUSINESS/PUBLIC HEARINGS] THERE'S NO OTHER UNFINISHED BUSINESS. SO WE HAVE NEW BUSINESS TONIGHT. UM, PROJECT 2025 DASH 20 DASH EIGHT P, WHICH IS, UH, THREE 20 SOUTH SPRING STREET. IS SOMEONE HERE TO PRESENT THAT CASE? THAT'S ALL RIGHT. IF YOU WOULD STEP TO THE MICROPHONE AND STATE YOUR NAME AND WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO. FIRST OF ALL, GOOD EVENING. UH, MY NAME IS DEACON PATRICK MICHELLE. I AM THE PARISH ASSOCIATED ST. JOSEPH'S PARISH. UH, AND, UH, I'M ALSO WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL. UH, RIGHT NOW WE ARE LOOKING AT AN EXPANSION OF THE SCHOOL INTO A HIGH SCHOOL. UH, AND AS PART OF THAT, WE NEED TO CREATE MORE SPACE. UH, AND ACTUALLY WE'RE GOING TO BE SHIFTING, UH, OUR PRESCHOOL OUT OF THE CLOCK TOWER BUILDING. THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE USUALLY NOTICE IT AS. UH, AND, UM, WE ARE GOING TO BE, UH, SHIFTING THE, UH, SIXTH AND SEVENTH GRADE FROM THE, UH, PRESENT MIDDLE SCHOOL, UH, OVER TO THERE. AND THEN BEGINNING AND EIGHTH, NINTH, AND 10TH GRADE HIGH SCHOOL, UH, FOR STARTING THE NEXT YEAR. SO STARTING IN MID-AUGUST WHEN ALL THE OTHER SCHOOLS OPEN. UM, SO THAT'S BASICALLY THE PLAN. UM, I DON'T KNOW, UH, WHETHER I HOW I SHOULD DO THIS, BUT THIS IS A RENDERING OF THE ACTUAL BUILDING THAT'S BEING CREATED THROUGH THE MODULAR UNITS. I DON'T KNOW. Y'ALL WANT TO PASS IT AROUND? IT'S BIG ENOUGH OR LOOK AT IT MORE CLOSELY. COMPLETELY UP TO YOU. GOOD. I PRESSURE. YOU'RE GOOD. OKAY, GREAT. [00:05:01] I SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS S**T. NICE AND BIG. YOU GOT IT RIGHT. WE CAN SEE. ALL RIGHT. SO, UM, ALSO, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO JUST SHOW YOU A SHOT OF WHERE WE WERE GONNA PUT IT. UM, SO, UH, AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW, UH, BUT YOU CAN SEE HERE, UM, THIS IS THE PRE-K BUILDING AS IT EXISTS NOW, IT'S CITED IN WHITE SIDING, UH, AND ALSO RED BRICK. OKAY. UH, SO WE ORIGINALLY WERE GONNA PUT THE BUILDING HERE, UH, AND THEN RUN A LITTLE HALLWAY FROM HERE TO THERE. AND SO ATTACHED TO BUILDINGS, HOWEVER, UM, MUCH TO OUR CHAGRIN, UH, WE FOUND OUT THERE'S A BIG OLD SEWER PIPE RUNNING RIGHT THROUGH THERE. SO WE COULDN'T PUT THE BUILDING THERE, SO WE HAD TO BACK IT UP SO THERE WAS ENOUGH SPACE. UM, SO WE'RE GONNA BE PUTTING THE BUILDING HERE IN THIS AREA INSTEAD. OKAY. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I KNOW THAT THEY, THEY SENT YOU PLANS OF THE LAYOUT IN YOUR AGENDA. THEY ALSO, UM, SENT YOU, UM, SQUARE FOOTAGE, UH, AS WELL AS, UM, WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING AND STUFF. ALL THE NICETIES WE'RE PUTTING INTO IT, IF YOU WILL. PAGE 21 HAS THE LAYOUT AND THIS IS WHAT WE'VE GOT. YEP. AND BY THE WAY, LEMME DO THAT. YOU HAD TO MOVE IT FURTHER NORTH. IT NO LONGER GONNA BE A RUNWAY BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS OR IT WON'T BE A RUNWAY, BUT THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. SO WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IS, IS YOU CAN SEE, NOW, MIND YOU, WE HAVE 430 STUDENTS. UH, WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA BE CLOSER TO 500 NEXT YEAR, UM, THAT IT ALL GET DROPPED OFF HERE. AND THEN THEY, UH, SO THE PARENTS ALL PARK HERE AND THEN THE ONES THAT GO TO THE CLOCK TOWER SCHOOL, THEY GO AROUND HERE TO THE BACK, RIGHT. UH, TO WHERE THE CLOCK TOWER SCHOOL IS AND THEY DROP THE KIDS OFF. SO IT'S, IT'S PRETTY WELL A SCIENCE AT THIS POINT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU EVER GOT STUCK IN THAT TRAFFIC OVER THERE WHEN WE WERE THERE, . UH, BUT, UH, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY HAIRY, BUT ONLY FOR ABOUT 10 MINUTES AND THEN IT ALL GOES AWAY. UH, SO BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS, IS YOU CAN SEE THE, THE TRACK HERE, THE KIDS, THIS IS LITERALLY A TRACK THE KIDS USE FOR THEIR CROSS COUNTRY AND, AND TRACK TRACTORS. SO WE'RE GONNA PUT THE BUILDING HERE, UH, WITH THIS, THE HANDICAP ACCESSIBILITY RAMP YOU CAN SEE IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, RIGHT. SO THAT WE'RE GONNA PLACE IT SUCH THAT THAT RUNWAY WILL HIT THAT RAMP. SO THE PARENTS BASICALLY WILL BE ABLE TO DROP THEIR LITTLE ONES OFF. THIS BUILDING IS GONNA BE USED FOR THIRD THREE YEAR OLDS AND FOUR YEAR OLDS. OKAY. UH, THE OTHER BUILDING IS OBVIOUSLY USED FOR 0 2 2. RIGHT. UM, SO BASICALLY THEN THEY'LL BE ABLE TO JUST WALK RIGHT OUT OF THAT PARKING LOT RIGHT ONTO THAT, THAT, THAT SIDEWALK RIGHT UP INTO THE BUILDING. THAT'S BASICALLY THE DESIGN RIGHT NOW. UNLESS THE POWERS THAT DETAIL US SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BY THE WAY, COMPREHENSIVE PACKET. BUT I THINK A LOT OF OUR QUESTIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ANSWERED. BUT, UM, LET ME JUST GO AHEAD. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO AT THIS POINT I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE FLOOR TO ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS CASE. AND IF NO ONE WANTS TO ADDRESS THAT, OH, I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS TO SEE, UH, DRAWINGS. OH YEAH, THERE'S SOME UP HERE ON THE RAIL. THIS IS NOT, YEAH, THERE'S SOME UP HERE ON THE RAILING ALSO. UM, WELL, IT'S, YEAH. AND THERE'S THE AGENDA POWER. IT'S NOT A, IT'S A GROUP OF MODULARS MODULARS TIED TOGETHER. SO THERE'S ACTUALLY FIVE UNITS WITHIN THAT. THE HALLWAY BEING THE FIFTH UNIT, AND THERE'S FOUR CLASSROOMS AND THEN LOTS OF BATHROOMS BECAUSE WE'RE DEALING WITH LITTLE PEOPLE . SO, UM, SO THERE'S LOTS AND LOTS OF BATHROOMS. MY KIDS WENT CAFETERIA. . YEAH, NO, GO RIGHT AHEAD. SO WHERE, WHERE ARE WE? SO WE'RE GONNA PUT THE BUILDING, WE WERE GONNA PUT IT THERE, UHHUH SEW WIDE. SO WE'RE GONNA PUT IT HERE INSTEAD. OKAY. AND THEN THIS IS GONNA BE THE NEW PRE PREK. RIGHT. AND THAT'S GONNA ALLOW US TO SHIFT THE GRADE. OKAY. SO WE CAN, WE CAN CREATE A HIGH SCHOOL AND THE HIGH SCHOOL HERE. WELL, WHERE THE MIDDLE SCHOOL IS NOW. SO THE, OH, I CAN SHOW YOU ON THIS. OKAY. WELL YOU CAN SEE A NICE ROOFTOP, BUT THAT'S THE, THE MIDDLE SCHOOL NOW. OKAY. BUT THE OLD, UH, NO, THE OLD NUNS QUARTERS IS ACTUALLY MARY'S REFUGE. OH, THERE, OKAY. WHICH IS RIGHT THERE. THAT'S OUR, OUR HOME FOR UNWED MOTHERS. OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN THIS IS THE, THE OLD THIS, THIS, [00:10:01] THIS, I THINK THIS IS THE 1880 BUILDING I THINK, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT. 1880. SO THIS WAS BUILT IN 1880. AND THAT WAS REALLY THE ORIGINAL SCHOOL THAT THE SISTERS BUILT. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, AND THEN OVER THE YEARS IT WENT ITS WAY, THE GYM WAS HERE IN THE PARKWAY. OH, SET THE BUILDING. YEP. AND I BELIEVE, UH, YOU GUYS ARE NO BETTER THAN I DO. IT SANK INTO THE GROUND AND SO THEY HAD TO TEAR IT DOWN AND GOES, LITERALLY THE FLOOR SANK INTO THE GROUND. THAT'S THE STORY I GOT. SO THE NEW SCHOOL'S GONNA GO HERE? NOPE. IT'S GONNA GO HERE. SO THIS IS GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA TAKE THE SIXTH AND SEVENTH GRADE OUT THIS SCHOOL, PUT IT OVER THE B POWER SCHOOL. 'CAUSE WE'RE MOVING THE PRE-K TO THIS USED TO BE THE HIGH SCHOOL WHERE, UH, THAT'S GONNA BE THE, A NEW NO, WE ALSO USE. ALRIGHT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING I CAN HELP WITH? AGAIN, THIS IS A STILL OPEN TO THE PUBLIC OR ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS, ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE HEARING. DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS? MY ONLY QUESTION IS, IT'S, IT'S A TEMPORARY STRUCTURE. ARE YOU PLANNING ON BUILDING A PERMANENT STRUCTURE IN THE FUTURE? WELL, THE, THE STRUCTURES NOW ARE, UH, AT LEAST I, I'M TOLD THEY'RE BUILT SO WELL, IT COULD LAST US IF WE, WELL, WE MAINTAIN IT WELL. AND I THINK YOU'VE SEEN OUR BUILDINGS, WE MAINTAIN THEM WELL MM-HMM . UM, WE ARE, THEY CAN LAST UP TO 30 YEARS. SO, UH, IT, IT'LL DEPEND. UH, BUT FOR NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY A 10 TO 15 YEAR WINDOW WITH THAT BUILDING AND THEN BY THEN REPLACING IT WITH A MORE PERMANENT STRUCTURE. OKAY. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, WHY YOUR MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BUILDING HAS THE APPLICATION AS HAS SUGGESTED. UH, THERE'S BEEN MOTION. DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. MOTION PASSED. GOD BLESS YOU ALL. THANK. THANK YOU. HAVE A GREAT NIGHT. WE MS WELL, OKAY, MOVING ON. UM, THE, THE NEXT PROJECT ON THE NINTH AGENDA IS 2025 DASH 24 DASH EIGHT P, WHICH IS 5 26 WEST KING STREET. SOMEONE HERE TO PRESENT THAT CASE. YES SIR. AGAIN, IF YOU WOULD STEP TO THE MICROPHONE AND STATE YOUR NAME AND WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO DO. UH, MOHAMED NAEL. UH, JUST A SIGN FOR THE BUSINESS. JUST ONE SIGN? YEAH, JUST ONE. ONE SIGN. JUST SIGN. YEAH. UM, AND WHILE THE COMMISSIONERS ARE, ARE CONSIDERING THE CASE, AGAIN, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO LET YOU GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE COURT. ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS CASE AND NO MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO VISIT IF I GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE HEARING. UM, I, ONE THING I, I DO WANT TO POINT OUT, UM, IN THE APPLICATION, YOU HAD SEEN THE EMAIL, UM, UH, THAT, UH, CAITLYN HAD SENT OUT ASKING ABOUT THE LAMP OR LAMP, THEY HAVE AN ANSWER THAT YEAH, THEY'RE NOT THERE. SURE ENOUGH. I'M GONNA BUY JUST TO MAKE SURE AND SEE WHAT LOOKED AND CAN'T EVEN TELL THEY WERE THERE. WELL, AND FROM WHAT I WAS TOLD, THEY WERE ACTUALLY JUST PERCHED ON THERE. I THOUGHT THEY WERE PART OF THE BUILDING. IT LOOKED WAY, THAT'S WHY I WENT BY AND LOOKED TO SEE IF THERE WAS HOLES OR ANYTHING. AND IT LOOKED, YEAH. AND THEN WHEN YOU RE-LOOK AT IT, IT LOOKED LIKE THERE'S JUST A YEAH, THEY WERE JUST KIND HANGING ON THERE. 'CAUSE I FIGURED THAT WOULD'VE BEEN A QUESTION THAT WAS GONNA BE ASKED OF. YEAH. KAITLIN WAS NICE ENOUGH TO SEND THE EMAIL, BUT THERE JUST NOTHING. YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY WERE NOT ACTUALLY ANYTHING WAS THERE. SO, YEAH, I, WHEN I, WHEN I SAW, I'M SORRY. WHEN I SAW, I WAS LIKE, THAT'S PERFECT 'CAUSE IT'S DARK THERE. I WAS LIKE, NOW I HAVE TO PUT THE LIGHT THERE. . SO, UM, EVERYONE'S LOOKED AT, UH, THE PROPOSED SIGN IN THEIR PACKET. ANY, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? IF NOT GOING FOR A MOTION, I'LL MOVE TO ACCEPT THE APPLICATION AS PRESENTED A MOTION. DO HEAR A SECOND? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? MOTION PASSED. THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR COMING IN AND GOOD LUCK WITH THE BUSINESS. UM, THE NEXT PROJECT ON THE NINTH'S AGENDA IS, UH, 2025 DASH 25 DASH HP, WHICH IS, UH, 100 NORTH QUEEN STREET IS ONLY HERE TO PRESENT THAT CASE. MATTHEW, ARE YOU HERE FOR THAT ONE? ? YEAH, [00:15:05] SORRY. OKAY. I HEARD THE NUMBER AND IT, YEAH, SORRY. MATTHEW GROVE HERE. , WELL SHOUT OUT IT . UM, YEAH. SO, UH, WE'RE PRESENTING THE, UH, UH, IMPROVEMENTS TO THE MARKET HOUSE. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IN THE EXTERIOR THERE'S REALLY, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE RESTORING THE WOOD WINDOWS, WHICH IS THE BIG DEAL. UM, THEY'RE, UH, THEY'RE LARGELY IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE, BUT, UM, UH, SOME SILLS HAVE ROTTED AND SOME PARTS ARE MISSING AND SOME OF THE GLASS IS MISMATCHED. BUT, UM, BY AND LARGE IT'S GONNA BE, UM, RESTORED, YOU KNOW, FAITHFULLY TO THE WAY IT WAS. UM, THROUGH WINDOW AIR CONDITIONING UNITS ARE GONNA COME OUT AND, YOU KNOW, WINDOWS IN SOME CASES ARE GONNA BE PATCHED. TRANSOMS WILL BE PATCHED. THE, UM, BRICK'S GONNA BE POINTED. THE, IT'S IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE. IT'S NOT, NOT A WHOLE LOT OF POINTING NEEDS TO BE DONE. UM, GUTTERS AND DOWNSPOUTS ARE BEING REPLACED AND UPGRADED. AND THEN WE HAVE A NEW ROOF GOING ON THE ENTIRE BUILDING, UM, WHICH ARE JUST, THEY'RE GONNA BE ASPHALT SHINGLES OR FIBERGLASS SHINGLES. UM, BUT THEY'LL LOOK, THE MARKET HOUSE ACTUALLY HAD A SLATE, NOT A SLATE, UH, SH UH, A WOOD SHAKE, UH, ROOF ORIGINALLY. AND, UH, SO THE NEW, UH, FIBERGLASS SHINGLES ARE GONNA RESEMBLE A WOOD SHAPE. UM, WHEREAS OLD CITY HALL, WHICH IS A STRUCTURE OFF ON BERK STREET, UH, ORIGINALLY HAD A SLATE AS WE FOUND IT IN THE ATTIC. IN BOTH CASES, THE OLD, THE ORIGINAL ROOF WAS LAYING IN THE, IN THE ATTIC. AND SO IT'S GONNA HAVE, UH, MORE OF A DARK GRAY, UH, SHINGLE TO REPRESENT THE SLATE. UM, WE'LL HAVE SNOWBOARDS GOING BACK ON AND, UH, AND THEN THE COU IS GONNA GET REPAINTED, UH, PRE FAITHFULLY THE COLOR THAT'S THERE, WHICH IS A KIND OF AN AGED COPPER. AND, UM, THE OTHER NEW ADDITION IS WE HAVE TO DO AN ELEVATED WALKWAY ON BURKE STREET BECAUSE THE THRESHOLDS TO ALL THOSE DOORWAYS DOWN ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN INCHES. SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE BUILDING TOTALLY, UH, HANDICAPPED ACCESSIBLE. SO WE'RE GONNA RAISE THE SIDEWALK UP TO THE THRESHOLD AND, UM, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A NEW ELEVATOR INSIDE. SO THE UPSTAIRS IS GONNA BE TOTALLY ACCESSIBLE. UH, WE'RE GONNA DRESS UP THE AWNINGS, UH, THEY'RE KIND OF LOOKING TIRED RIGHT NOW. AND, UM, AND THERE'S GONNA BE SOME NEW SIGNAGE WITH THIS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ASCEND, UH, TENANT. UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS KNOW ABOUT ASCEND, BUT, UH, THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF WEST VIRGINIA, THE SMITH FAMILY HAVE DONATED MONEY BACK TO THE STATE TO ENCOURAGE WEST VIRGINIANS OR PEOPLE TO COME BACK INTO THE STATE AND MAKE IT THEIR HOME AND MAKE IT THE HOME OF THEIR BUSINESS. AND SO THIS SPACE UPSTAIRS IS GONNA BE AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE WHO MEET THE PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS AND, UM, UH, COME AND LIVE IN THE STATE. AND, UH, THEY'RE ACTUALLY PAID A SMALL, YOU KNOW, A SUM OF MONEY TO DO THAT. AND THEN THEY HAVE FREE OFFICE SPACE FOR A YEAR AND ACCESS TO STATE PARKS AND KAYAKS AND CANOES AND MOUNTAIN BIKES, ALL OF WHICH ARE GONNA BE STORED IN THIS BUILDING . UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY YOU HAVE 90 TO A HUNDRED BUSINESS PEOPLE IN THIS BUILDING WORKING DAY TO DAY. UH, YOU KNOW, GOING OUT AND HAVING LUNCH AND, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTING BUSINESSES IN TOWN, IT'S GONNA BE A GREAT THING. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, VISUALLY FROM THE OUTSIDE, THE BUILDING'S GONNA LOOK, YOU KNOW, BETTER THAN IT DOES NOW BECAUSE IT'S BEING POINTED UP. UM, NOT, NOT MUCH DIFFERENT, BUT DO HAVE A COUPLE NEW AWNINGS. NOW. GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I WILL SAY AS FAR AS WITH THE AWNINGS, UM, THERE IS NORMALLY ONLY ONE ALLOWED PER BUSINESS OR PARCEL. UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IF THIS IS APPROVED BY THE HPRC, YOU WILL HAVE TO GET A VARIANCE FOR THE EXTRA AWNINGS. OKAY. SO LIKE THE, UH, LET'S SEE, YOU'VE GOT SIX OVER HERE. UH, SO YEAH, THERE WOULD BE NEED BE A VARIANCE APPLIED FOR, FOR THAT. 'CAUSE THE IS A SEND UHHUH UHHUH . YEAH. OKAY. WE CAN, YEAH, WE CAN DISCUSS THAT AND, AND GET SQUARED AWAY AND WE, YEAH, WE COULD, IF WE COULD GET APPROVAL, SAY, UH, LESS THE SIGNAGE, WE COULD ALWAYS COME BACK AND DO THE SIGNAGE AT ANOTHER TIME. VERY TRUE. SO I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT, UM, I THINK THEY WANTED SOME REPRESENTATION OF ASCEND OVER ON QUEEN STREET, WHICH WOULD BE OVER ON THE FAR RIGHT SIDE ON THE QUEEN STREET ELEVATION. AND THEN THE ENTRANCE TO ASCEND IS, UH, THAT LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER ENTRANCE, AN OLD CITY HALL THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT. YEAH. ON THE QUEEN STREET SIDE. SO YOU HAVE ONE AWNING, AND THEN THAT ONE IS GOING TO BE, THE ASCEND IS GONNA BE A WALL SIGN, CORRECT? YEAH. AND I THINK WE MAY DROP [00:20:01] THE AWNING ABOVE THAT ENTRANCE. JUST DO THE SIGN ABOVE. OKAY. I WAS GONNA SAY, SO YEAH, YOU CAN HAVE ONE WALL SIGN AND ONE AWNING. UH, QUEEN STREET IS PRETTY MUCH GOOD. OKAY. UH, IT'S, IT'S THE OTHER SIDE SIDE THAT HAS THE AWNING OVER BASICALLY EACH WINDOW. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE TO GET AT THE END, THIS, THIS CASE. OKAY. OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S, AND THE PRINCIPAL ENTRANCE AGAIN IS THAT SINGLE DOOR. THAT WOULD BE THE ONE WE'D REALLY WANT. UM, THE OTHERS REALLY JUST TO AGAIN, MAKE IT KNOWN THAT ASCEND HAS A SECOND FLOOR. YEP. GOTCHA. AND THEN THERE'S GONNA BE ANOTHER TENANT UNDERNEATH ASCEND TO THE LEFT HAND SIDE. AND THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, AWNINGS WITH THAT BUSINESS NAME ON THAT. AND THAT WOULD BE OKAY. 'CAUSE THAT IS ONE PER BUSINESS. RIGHT. SO YEAH, THAT WOULD BE FINE. AND THEN WE JUST THOUGHT HABANERO WOULD LIKE SOMETHING NEW. UM, YEAH. SO, UM, YEAH, I CAN GET WITH THE DETAILS. OKAY. IT'S NO BIG DEAL. OKAY. SO FOR, FOR CLARIFICATION, OUR, OUR SIGNS EVEN BE DISCUSSED WITH THE COMMISSION TO, WELL, IT, IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, HABANERO, WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THEIR SIGN, SO I'D SAY NO ON HABANERO. WE HAVE SHOWN THE ASCEND SIGN TO ASCEND AND THEY WERE HAPPY WITH THAT. AND ESSENTIALLY IT'S, EACH OF THEIR, UM, SIGNS ARE SPECIFIC TO THEIR LOCATION. I THINK THEY HAVE FIVE OR SIX LOCATIONS IN THE STATE. SO THIS IS JUST ASCEND FOR EASTERN PANHANDLE AND, UH, THAT'S THEIR LOGO. AND THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, THEY'D BE FINE IF IT WAS, UM, A LOT OF TIMES THEY DO GLASS WITH A WHITE FILM AND THEN THE LETTERS ARE CLEAR. SO THE LETTERS ARE THE COLOR OF THE BUILDING BEHIND. SO I'M, WE WERE TRYING TO REPRESENT THE BRICK COLOR WITH THIS, SO IT'D BE THE BRICK COLOR BEHIND THE WHITE. UM, SO YEAH, IF WE COULD GET APPROVAL ON THE ASCEND SIGN TONIGHT, THAT WOULD BE HANDY. BUT THE OTHERS, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT OTHER BUSINESS IS AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HABIN AIRS WANTS TO DO. SO, SO IF THE SIGNS ARE APPROVED, I WOULD RECOMMEND EITHER APPROVING THEM WITH THE ADJUSTMENTS TO MEET THE ZONING ORDINANCE OR APPROVAL WITH A VARIANCE THROUGH THE BCA SUBJECT TO THE VARIANCE OF THE VARIANCE. YES. UM, AND I GUESS MY, ONE OF MY QUESTIONS WAS THE NUMBER OF ASCEND SIZE. I MEAN, RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S ONE OVER EACH WINDOW. WELL, LET'S SEE, YEAH, UP ON THAT SECOND FLOOR, WE HAVE THREE UPS UP ABOVE, AND THEN ONE ON THE FIRST, WELL, TWO ON THE FIRST FLOOR, I GUESS. IS THAT, WHAT IS THAT THE PLAN TO HAVE THAT THAT WOULD BE, UM, UH, AT THE VERY LEAST, WE'D WANT AWNINGS UP THERE JUST TO SHADE THE WINDOWS BECAUSE IT GETS PRETTY, YOU KNOW, GET A LOT OF SUN, UH, SOLAR GAIN. UM, BUT IF YOU GUYS FEEL LIKE YOU REALLY DON'T WANNA SEE THOSE UP ABOVE, UM, I, I THINK THEY COULD LIVE WITH A, THE ONE OR TWO ON THE LOWER LEVEL BECAUSE THERE 2 1, 1 OF THOSE PAIR OF DOORS, A GOTHIC DOORS ON THE RIGHT IS, IS THERE PRINCIPLE EXIT IN THE SINGLE DOOR IS GONNA BE THEIR ENTRANCE. UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE A, IF IT, IF IT REQUIRES A VARIANCE, THEN WE, YOU KNOW, WE'D HAVE TO GO THAT ROUTE. AND PERHAPS FOR NOW ALL YOU CAN SAY IS WE CAN APPROVE ONE AWNING ABOVE THE MAIN ENTRANCE AND, YOU KNOW, IF I COULD TAKE THAT BACK TO ASCEND AND THEY MIGHT SAY ONE AWNING'S, FINE. WE'LL, YOU KNOW, I GUESS WHAT I WOULD, THIS IS ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THE COMMISSION HAVE NOT SAID, WE KIND OF WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS BEING HAPPEN, WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED RIGHT NOW. IT SOUNDS LIKE THE SIGNS ARE KIND OF FLUID, YOU KNOW, ALL THE OTHER THING, YOU KNOW, ALL THE OTHER CHANGES THAT, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING ARE, ARE CLEAR. IT'S JUST THE SIGNS SEEM A LITTLE YEAH, YEAH. WELL THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE YEAH. STILL TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT. WE'RE STILL MONTHS AWAY FROM THAT MOMENT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE'RE TRYING TO GET, UM, ALL THE BRICKS AND MORTAR WORK DONE AND UM, UH, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, HANER IS PROBABLY NEGOTIATING WITH THE NEW OWNERS AND THAT SORT OF THING TOO. SO, UM, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE, THE THOUGHT WAS TO TRY TO GET, UH, MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THAT ASCEND IS, IS, IS OCCUPYING THAT ENTIRE LEVEL, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T REALLY DO A SIGN THAT SUGGESTS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT BUILDING, THAT BUILDING HAS GOT A CERTAIN SCALE TO IT. AND THE MOST WE COULD THINK TO DO, WE'RE DOING THESE SMALL AWNINGS AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS, LIKE I I I WAS THINKING THE MULTIPLE SIGNS LOOK A LITTLE BUSY OR WITH A LITTLE FLUTTER OR SOMETHING ON THE, ON THE OLDER CITY HALL. YEAH. IT KIND OF SOUNDED GOOD TO HAVE THE, THE INTEREST EXIT DOORS FOR ME THAT WOULD HELP ME. I WAS GOING IN THERE, I WOULD [00:25:01] SEE A SIGN AT THE DOOR I NEED GO INTO AND DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN IN AND OUT HERE. YEAH. IN AND OUT. AND ALSO TO SAY THIS IS A SAID HERE VERSUS SOMEPLACE ELSE, OR NO. AND, AND THE CALL OUTS ON ALL THE, THE BERK STREET ELEVATIONS, THEY ALL CALL OUT AWNINGS, NOT SIGNS. SO I, I WAS READING THAT AS TO BE SOMETHING MORE LIKE WHAT YOU SEE THERE FOR, I GUESS THE GOTHIC DOOR MORE OR LESS, WHEREAS THE GREEN STROKE WOULD BE ACTUAL SIGN. I, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THAT. THE PULLOUT, YOU WERE THINKING THESE WOULD BE MORE LIKE THERE WOULD BE A YEAH. AN AWNING WITH YEAH, I'M GUESSING THE AWNING WOULD HAVE THE LOGO PROBABLY ON THE AWNING. I'M GUESSING THE ONE ABOVE THE GOTHIC WOULD PROBABLY JUST HAVE THE, THE, UH, TEXT TEXT DOWN AT THE BOTTOM EDGE. RIGHT. OKAY. UM, THE, THE GO OLD CITY HALL WOULD HAVE SIX AWNINGS, IT'D BE THREE OVER THREE, SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE UNIFORM, YOU KNOW, JUST WE'D HAVE TWO AWNINGS DEDICATED TO THE, UH, TENANT ONE A. RIGHT. AND THEN THE OTHER FOUR TO ASCEND. SO HOPEFULLY IT WOULD LOOK REGULAR AND BALANCED. UM, NO, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS WHAT, WHAT YOU WOULD WANT, BUT, UH, JUST A SUGGESTION, WHAT WE COULD DO IS, WHAT YOU GUYS COULD DO IS APPROVE BASICALLY THE EXTERIOR MINUS THE SIGNS AND TABLE THOSE TO THE NEXT MEETING. THAT WAY WE CAN REALLY FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT TO DO AND PRESENT IT TO THEM. SURE. AND YOU KNOW, IF, IF, UM, UM, YEAH, WE COULD DO THAT FOR SURE. IT'S, THAT WOULD MAKE WOULD BE, BE BETTER. I MEAN, I DON'T, I THINK WE CAN ADDRESS WHAT YOU WERE CALLING THE, THE BRICK MORTAR CHANGES AS IT SIGNS WE COULD, WE COULD POSTPONE AND IT DOESN'T EVEN NEED TO, THE NEXT MONTH NECESSARILY JUST COULD TAKE LONGER. IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE TWO OR THREE MONTHS FROM NOW. YEAH. YEAH. AND THAT'S, THAT'S FINE. YEAH. WE CAN TABLE THAT. OR IF WE CAN TAKE IT OFF NEXT MEETING AND BRING IT OFF VISIT NORMALLY THE HPRC, WE CAN GET YOU ON ROOT FAX. OKAY. UM, SO YEAH, AND I, I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT, UH, YEAH, IT'S, UH, UM, IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT ASCEND REQUESTED, BUT YOU KNOW, IT WAS MORE OF, THEY'RE FOCUSED ON A LOT OF THE DETAILS INSIDE THE BUILDING, SO THIS DIDN'T GET A WHOLE LOT OF THEIR ATTENTION OTHER THAN, OKAY, IT LOOKS GOOD, YOU KNOW, . BUT IF, IF YOU GOT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO COME AWAY FROM THE MEETING MEETING, HEARING YOUR THOUGHTS. IF YOU REALLY THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU REALLY WANT CITY HALL'S AWNINGS TO LOOK SORT OF DIFFERENT FROM MARKET HOUSE, WE COULD SORT OF HEAD IN THAT DIRECTION, UM, SO THAT THEY'RE, AND THEY ARE GONNA BE DIFFERENT JUST BY THE SHEER SHAPE OF THEM. AND, YOU KNOW, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT'S WHAT WE WERE SUGGESTING. I THINK I WAS JUST WANTING SOME MORE, A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARIFICATION ABOUT WHERE THEY'RE GONNA BE AND WHAT, WHAT SIGNAGE WAS GOING TO BE ON THEM. BUT POSTPONING IT, I THINK WOULD BE A, A, A GREAT IDEA JUST TO LET YOU FOLKS GET MM-HMM . GET ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. UM, YEAH. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS TENANT'S GONNA HAVE, AND THAT MAY JUST HAVE TO BE A PLACEHOLDER FOR THEM TO COME BACK, YOU KNOW, BUT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE AN AWNING. IT WOULD JUST BE, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THEY WANT TO PUT ON IT SORT OF THING. YEAH. AND AS I SAID, ONE PER BUSINESS. SO THAT, I MEAN, IF THERE IS, IS THAT, IS IF THAT'S A DESIGNATED SPOT FOR ANOTHER BUSINESS, YEAH, THAT CAN BE DEFINITELY A LOT IMPORTANT. THAT'S THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD IS IF YOU, UM, IF YOU HAD, YOU KNOW, FOR HABANEROS, WE HAD THOUGHT IT WOULD BE COOL TO ADVERTISE THE FACT THAT THEY USE FRESH INGREDIENTS ON EVERYTHING. SO AT ONE POINT WE WERE THINKING, DOING, HAVING IMAGES OF THE FRESH FOODS THEY PUT IN THEIR FOOD ON THE AWNING. IT'S NOT NO TEXT, IT'S JUST AN IMAGE OF, YOU KNOW, THE INGREDIENTS TO THEIR FOOD. WOULD THAT BE CONSIDERED A SIGN? I GUESS I, I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK UP THAT ONE. THE PLANET DIRECTOR? YEAH, I THAT WOULD BE A SIGN. YEAH. YOU THINK IT WOULD BE A SIGN? IT DOESN'T HAVE TO HAVE WORDS TO BE A SIGN. OKAY. BUT THAT'S WHERE VARIANCE COULD COME IN. I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF, IT, IT WAS A MARKET HOUSE. AND SO THE IDEA TOO IS HAVING ALL THESE IMAGES OF FOOD, YOU KNOW, RELATES TO THE HISTORY OF BUILDING AND, AND SPEAKS TO THAT. AND I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF SAYING HABANEROS OR YOU KNOW, IT, BUT THEY ALL, YOU KNOW HOW MANY WE HAVE HERE, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 WINDOWS, ROMAN ARCH WINDOWS THAT, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE, UM, A GOOD WAY TO SORT OF HIGHLIGHT THAT HISTORY. UM, WELL, THAT WOULD BE, I HAVE, I HAVE NOT, BY THE WAY, I HAVE NOT, UH, OPENED UP THIS, UH, OPENED UP THE FOUR TO ANY MEMBER PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS. [00:30:01] I PUT THEM ALL TO SLEEP . UM, IF NO ONE WANTS, NO MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WANTS TO ADDRESS THE CASE, I OPPOSED A PUBLIC PORTION OF THE HEARING. BUT MR. CHAIR HAS MAY SUGGESTS IF, IF THE COMMISSION IS GOING TO TABLE THE SIGN PORTION OF THIS, THAT SHOULD BE THE FIRST MOTION TO TABLE APPROVAL ON SIGN PORTION OF THE APPLICATION. AND LET ME ASK COUNSEL, WHAT ABOUT THE LINE THAT WE VARIANCE? WELL, THAT WE'RE, WE'RE TABLING IT RIGHT NOW, SO WE'RE NOT GONNA, OKAY. THE ING AND THE SIGN ARE NOT YEAH. . IT'LL BE CORRECTED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER WITH A VARIANCE OR IT'LL COME INTO CLIENTS. OKAY. AND, AND WHEN WE GET TO AN APPROVAL POINT, IF THERE IS A VARIANCE THAT NEEDS TO MADE, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND APPROVE IT SUBJECT TO THE BRANDING OF A, OF A VARIANCE. UH, THAT WOULD BE ONE WAY OF DEALING WITH IT. UH, BUT WE'RE, IF WE'RE GOING THE SIZE OF THE ING WE'RE KIND OF HOLDING OFF ON RIGHT NOW, WE CAN TAKE THAT PORTION OF IT AND THEN AFTER THAT'S CONDUCT THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE REMAINDER OF THE APPLICATION. UM, FOR COUNSEL'S, UH, SUGGESTION, DO I HEAR A MOTION BEFORE WE GET TO A MOTION, COULD I ASK A QUESTION ON THE WINDOWS REAL QUICK? SURE. SO I KNOW GENERALLY YOU'RE GOING TO, UH, JUST REPAIR THE WINDOWS THAT ARE THERE IN PLACE, SO THAT'S REPLACEMENT AND KIND. WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT. BUT IF YOU, ON THE ALLEY ELEVATION, THE WEST SIDE ELEVATION, I'M SORRY, YOU JUST PUT YOUR PAPER OVER THERE. UH, YOU MENTIONED NEW DOUBLE HOME WINDOWS. ARE, ARE THOSE ALSO REPLACEMENT IN KIND OR ARE YOU GETTING A, UH, I GUESS A NEWER STYLE? THOSE YEAH, THOSE WINDOWS. UM, THERE'S ONE ON BURKE STREET AND THERE ARE FOUR ON THE ALLEY. RIGHT. UM, THOSE WERE, UM, PUT IN PROBABLY IN THE FIFTIES, THEY'RE, OR SIXTIES, OR THEY'RE FIXED SASHES. AND THEY, UM, THEY WERE, UH, MADE AT A TIME WHEN THERE WASN'T TERRIFIC WORKMANSHIP IN MAKING WINDOWS. AND THEY CUT HOLES IN THESE, A COUPLE OF THESE TO PUT AIR CONDITIONING UNITS. AND, UM, SO WE HAD THOUGHT IT WOULD BE SMART TO PUT WINDOWS BACK THAT WERE THERE ORIGINALLY, WHICH WERE DOUBLE HUNG TWO OVER TWOS. THE STATE LOOKED AT IT AND SAID, STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE SAID, WELL, THAT'S GOOD. BUT THE ORIGINAL OPENING WAS AS BIG AS THE WINDOWS ARE ABOVE IN THE EARLY, AND, UH, IF YOU'RE GONNA DO IT, YOU NEED TO TAKE IT BACK TO THE ORIGINAL SIZE. AND THEN THEY SENT THAT ON TO THE PARK SERVICE. AND THE PARK SERVICE GUY WHO SPOKE TO HIM TODAY, HE SAID, WELL, I DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE WITH THE STATE ON THAT MATTER, BUT, UM, UH, IN ANY RATE, THE BASE BID OF THE CONTRACT WAS BA TO, TO REFURBISH THESE WINDOWS AS THEY ARE. OKAY. AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE WE'RE GONNA END UP AND NOT DO AN ADD ALTERNATE TO CHANGE THEM. OKAY. BUT IF WE, IF WE WERE, WE ACTUALLY FOUND SOME OF THE GLASS THAT WAS PROBABLY IN THOSE WINDOWS, THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, TWO OVER TWO PIECES OF GLASS, I DIDN'T THROW MUCH AWAY UP AT THE ATTIC SPACE OF THIS BUILDING. UM, BUT TO REPLACE THEM ALL WOULD BRING THE SASHES DOWN CLOSER TO THE STREET LEVEL AND MAKE THEM A LITTLE LESS SECURE. RIGHT. AND WITH ALL THAT IN MIND, I THINK THE OWNER'S JUST GONNA KEEP THE COLONIAL LOOKING FIXED WINDOW. OKAY. NO THANK, BUT THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT UP. THE OTHER, THE ORIGINAL WINDOWS, YOU KNOW, UPSTAIRS, THOSE ARE ALL THE ORIGINALS, WE'RE GONNA TAKE THAT PIECE OF PLASTIC OFF, WHICH I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHY THAT WENT ON THERE. UM, AND THOSE WINDOWS ARE ALL, YOU KNOW, THOSE ALL STILL WORK. UM, AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA HAVE INTERIOR STORM WINDOWS PUT ON THESE WINDOWS TO BETTER THEIR R VALUE AND, UM, KNOCK SOUND, YOU KNOW, FROM STREET DOWN. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. AGAIN, LET ME ASK, UH, FOR A MOTION REGARDING SIGNAGE. YES. UH, SO I WILL MOVE TO TABLE DISCUSSION OF SIGN OR APPROVAL OF SIGNAGE AND OR BRANDING SUCH AS AWNINGS AND OTHER LOGOS, UH, UNTIL THEY COME BACK FOR ANOTHER APPLICATION. THERE HAVE BEEN A MOTION. DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? MOTION PASSED. UM, NOW, UH, IF, IF THERE'S ALL OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, UH, DO I HEAR A MOTION REGARDING THE BALANCE OF THIS APPLICATION? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE APPLICATION. SECOND [00:35:01] MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ALRIGHT. AND AGAIN, UM, REGARDING, UH, KYLE, THEY IS, WILL THIS JUST AUTOMATICALLY ROLL ON FOR THE NEXT MONTH? YES. YEAH, I WILL PUT IT ON THERE UNLESS I REQUEST IT TO TAKE IT OFF IF THEY'RE NOT READY. BUT YEAH, I'LL PUT IT ON THE NEXT MONTH AND, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET THEM SQUARED AWAY. OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU GUYS. IF YOU'RE NOT READY FOR THE NEXT MEETING, LET KYLE KNOW AND WE'LL PUT IT ON. OKAY. WE'LL JUST PUT IT ON THAT WAY WE WON'T, RIGHT? OR THE PHOENIX. OKAY. SQUARE AWAY. THANK UM, THERE'S NO OTHER BUSINESS ON THE, THAT AGENDA. NO ACTION ITEMS. SO THE WRITER MOTION TO GO. UH, WE STILL HAVE THE, [4. UNFINISHED BUSINESS] THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS. I BELIEVE THE, THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS. EVERYBODY WAS PLACED ON UNFINISHED BUSINESS BECAUSE THEY FAILED TO APPEAR AT THE LAST MEETING. THEY FAILED TO APPEAR AT THIS MEETING. I BELIEVE THAT THE MOTION TO DISMISS THE APPLICATION IS APPROPRIATE. OKAY. UM, DO I HEAR A MOTION TO DISMISS PROJECT? 2025 DASH 15 DASH HP SO MOVED. SECOND. AND THERE'S A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? MOTION PASS. SO THAT WILL BE, SO THEY WOULD NEED TO REAPPLY IF THEY WANTED. YES. YEP. WE'VE REACHED OUT TO 'EM BOTH TIMES. YEAH. YEAH. THEY WERE, I MEAN, $53,000 THEY THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING IT, BUT IT IT HASN'T. IT HASN'T. NOPE, IT HASN'T. I I'VE BEEN WATCHING IT RE YEAH, WE CHECKED TODAY, , WE WERE LIKE, I LIKE TO KNOW. NOT EVERY DAY, BUT PRETTY MUCH EVERY DAY. YEAH. AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, THERE WAS NO CONFUSION, RIGHT? 'CAUSE THERE WERE SOME PEOPLE THAT WERE HERE THAT LEFT. YEAH, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE HERE. OKAY. . I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THERE WASN'T SMOKE SHOP. RIGHT? OKAY. YEAH. SO, UM, OKAY. SORRY. NOW, NOW THERE'S NO OTHER BUSINESS. THERE'S NO OTHER ACTION ITEMS. UH, DO I HEAR A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED. THERE A SECOND. SECOND. ALL FAVOR. AYE WE ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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